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Allegedly Podcast Bo Ryan Milan Christopher Episode 7

How to be Fluent in Influence with Special Guest Milan Christopher

allegedly with Bo and Ryan | Episode 7

On this week’s episode, Bo and Ryan sit down with special guest Milan Christopher to discuss what it takes to be an influencer. Tune in now to hear his recipe for success and which tv or movie lawyer he’d most want to slide into their DMs.

Allegedly… with Bo and Ryan Podcast E7| Transcript

Milan: [00:00:00] Practice makes perfect. So if you are going to be if you want to be a social media influencer, practice.



Ryan: [00:00:10] Welcome to allegedly with Bo and Ryan, the only Entertainment and Lore podcast that brings you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Allegedly.


Bo: [00:00:21] I’m Bo Bowen


Ryan: [00:00:21] And I’m Ryan Schmidt.


Bo: [00:00:23] You’re listening to Allegedly with Bo and Ryan. We’re coming to you from our law offices in beautiful historic Savannah, Georgia, where we’ll be chatting about pop culture, hot legal topics in the news, and doing our best to change the way people think about the law and lawyers. But first, a little about us. Ryan is an incredible linguist. He’s actually fluent in every language on earth, including three that only he speaks.


Ryan: [00:00:52] And Bo is so famous that he owns the only passport ever issued in the US history that required no photo.


Bo: [00:00:59] Together, we’re Savannah’s consummate renegade legal titans.


Ryan: [00:01:04] And the only corporate and entertainment lawyers in the free world who have never lost a single case… Allegedly


Bo: [00:01:10] ell, welcome to episode seven, Ryan. We now have enough episodes to, I don’t know …


Ryan: [00:01:17] Fill an entire Quidditch team.


Bo: [00:01:19] How the hell do you know that?


Ryan: [00:01:22] Better question is, how do you not know that?


Bo: [00:01:25] Okay, fair enough. Well, I understand you have arranged a special guest for us today. It’s actually our very first time having a guest join us on the podcast.


Ryan: [00:01:38] I sure did.


Bo: [00:01:39] Well, this is incredibly exciting. Ryan, why don’t you tell everybody who you invited to join us today?


Ryan: [00:01:45] Awesome. Well, today’s guest is the epitome of a renaissance man. He is an influencer, rapper, model, actor, producer. He made history as the first openly gay male on VH1’s hit show, “Love and Hip Hop” has worked beside some of the greatest in the game, including Lil Wayne, Kanye West and Beyoncé. He’s also the founder and CEO of the hottest new streaming network, MCTV Streaming Network. We’re talking, of course, about the one and only Milan, Christopher Milan, Welcome to our show. We’re so happy to have you here.


Milan: [00:02:17] I am so happy to be here. How are you guys doing?


Bo: [00:02:21] Doing great, man. Well, listen, Milan, now you realize you’ve gotten to know Ryan. You and I have never met. Now you’ve got to realize I’m in my fifties OK. I am not the young, hip, in the know, you know, young fella like Mr. Ryan Schmidt over here. So for anybody listening, that might be skewing a little bit more toward my side of the coolness line, why don’t you go ahead and explain to us exactly what the hell it means to be an influencer.


Milan: [00:02:56] So I’m assuming because I’m not 100% sure what it means to be honest, but I’m assuming it’s a person who has a set or a cult following where they can kind of, you know, say something and kind of move the masses or move their following to be influenced by their voice, by their presence, by the things that they do or what they represent. So I’m assuming that’s what it is, just kind of like a person with a platform of their own, with a following of their own.


Ryan: [00:03:35] Absolutely. I love that. What is a day in the life of an influencer look like?


Milan: [00:03:43] Well, me personally, I get up, I typically dedicate, you know, most, well, not most, but some of my time as far as like on my social media, whether it’s on Bigo Instagram or Twitter, you know, to just kind of like put out some sort of content, whether it’s a picture, a video, or just something that is like random about my thoughts. And then, of course, I go to the gym five days a week and, you know, maybe go grab something to eat. But majority of the day, like, you know, after probably around like four or 5:00, I’m on social media or some form of social media for the remaining hours of the day, maybe like three or 4 hours out of the day every day.


Bo: [00:04:37] Wow. Man, So well, I mean, obviously, as a kid, you know, you’re three or four years old. You’re not thinking, you know, I can’t wait to grow up to be an influencer, mainly because that didn’t even exist at the time. So how did you actually get started? How did you how did you fall into this category of influencer?


Milan: [00:04:59] I think it kind of just came with time. Excuse me, my microwave is going off. But I think it kind of I think it kind of comes with the times. Like, I don’t even necessarily think … I think Instagram is rather new. I think I got Instagram back in like 2012, 2013, and as the platform grew, thus, you know, your influence grows on social media. You know, we’ve got all these different social media pages like Tik Tok, Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram and so on and so forth. I don’t even think that they were prepared that social media was going to blow up. But now it’s such a big part of every company’s promotions and branding, you know. So I think it just kind of happened. It wasn’t something that any anyone planned for it to happen. But, you know, once it happened, everyone started taking advantage of it.


Ryan: [00:06:06] Well, awesome. I mean, you know, you talked about going to the gym. You know, that’s a priority in your life. A lot of your posts, of course, are you flexing the abs? And you’ve got to give got to give respect for that.


Bo: [00:06:18] Yeah, I have seen your picture, Milan, I have to say, built like a tank. Good lord, man.


Ryan: [00:06:29] Well, one of the biggest things I’m always wondering when I’m playing around on my phone and watching content, is how do influencers actually make money?


Milan: [00:06:37] Well, you know, some people get paid to post. So say, for instance, if Ryan, you had a new single or maybe you came up with a skincare line or something like that, you would notice the people who have the most influence, which may be equating to who has more followers. And so what you would do is you would hit up that person and say, Hey, can you give me a post, a shout out? Or, you know, just telling your your followers to use my products or maybe even just follow my company’s page and so on and so forth, or click the link and go download my hit single, whatever it is that you’re promoting. And that person would probably charge you. I know most people charge a certain amount of money depending on how many followers they have, and so that’s one way to make money. And then club promoters and club people who have like events, you know, they they will hire certain influencers to kind of host their events or, you know, perform at their events and so on and so forth. It kind of is based on, you know, supply and demand. And if a person can see that they can benefit in some way somehow as far as like ticket sales, people showing up. And again, if they have products, you know, how they can sell their products to your your your fan base by having you post it. So you get you get paid for postings, promotions and appearances. You know, that’s how most people make money. And then you have people who are on YouTube, TikTok and other apps like Bigo who get paid for just streaming like their promoters, I’m sorry, their followers will send the money like on Bigo is like a live stream app where people are able to gift you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars as long as you’re live and communicating with them. And then on TikTok, based on your views and followers and clicks, stuff like that, your views and followers, you get paid for that. And then on YouTube for the ads based on your views, how many clicks, how many times people watch it, how many times people click the ads and so on, so forth. You get paid for that as well. So it’s just different ways you can get paid and it’s different and it just kind of depends on the app.


Bo: [00:09:00] So it sounds kind of like like how Ryan gets paid on his Only Fans page.


Milan: [00:09:06] Yeah, exactly.


Bo: [00:09:08] Exactly like that. Well, you know, it’s interesting, Milan, you talking about getting paid like when someone wants you to you or I don’t mean you specifically but influencers to endorse a product actually read recently that the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, was kind of cracking down on that a little bit. Have you heard anything about that how they’ve they passed some regulations specifically aimed at influencers and their endorsement of products, saying that you’re not allowed basically to endorse a product unless you actually use it. You have to disclose your relationship. Have you heard anything about that?


Milan: [00:09:48] No, I haven’t. And even if I did, I wouldn’t really care. The FTC. Certain things. The government is always trying to get involved because they want to figure out how they can make money. And they always try to get a control of it for taxes and trying to like just kind of, get their hand in the pot as well. You know what I mean? Because, you know, they they just again, they just want to make as much money as they possibly can, you know? So I haven’t really heard that. And I don’t think any other influencer are really that concerned as if, you know, hey, I’m not going to do this or hey, I’m not going to post this because I haven’t used it. But for the most part, I will say this: Most people who do make posts about certain brands or as far as like product, the people actually tend to send us stuff first. So we can at least have it at hand. You know what I mean? So if there’s a lotion or a cologne or a or a hookah pin or something, they’ll send you the products and then they would like for you to actually post with the product in your hand or you talking so you can physically have it and kind of show it. I haven’t really gotten any. I guess. I guess it’s kind of goes back to me not really being concerned because I haven’t even had a product that someone has asked me to promote that they didn’t send it to me first. So I don’t. So I can see why the f–I think you said the FCC–FTC, Yeah. I’m assuming you know that that’s the way around it, because no one’s really promoting anything that I know of unless they have the product.


Bo: [00:11:33] Now, you personally, do you find that like if somebody sends you a product and wants you to endorse it, basically, do you, is it important to you to make sure that it is something that you actually like using or feel positive about in order to decide to endorse it? Or is it really just about, hey, pay me, you got it and no problem?


Milan: [00:11:56] Well, I would say. It is something that is kind of like counterproductive or something that I might cut or, you know, the person who’s sending it to me kind of is kind of sketchy, or maybe I’ve heard something about them and I don’t want to really get behind it, then that’s one thing. And then if it’s something that you send me that I actually have the need to use, you know, sometimes people send me stuff like, Hey, here’s a clear, clear skin product, but I already have clear skin. So it’s like, you know, I still will probably promote it depending on how much money they’re asking for the advertisement, but I might not necessarily use it because I don’t really need it, you know, or here’s a weight loss pill. I’m already have a nice body. I’m not taking pills, you know, So they kind of say.


Bo: [00:12:50] I’m with you, brother.


Milan: [00:12:52] You know what I’m saying? They don’t find people who fits their aesthetic to promote their stuff, like, you know, to as if you are using it. And that’s why you look a certain way or your skin is clear and stuff like that. But yeah, so it just depends, honestly.


Ryan: [00:13:08] Wait, you’re telling me not everything on the internet is 100% true?


Milan: [00:13:13] Absolutely.


Bo: [00:13:15] Well, you know, it’s interesting because …


Milan: [00:13:17] Everything on the Internet is 100% true I take it back.


Bo: [00:13:20] Fair enough. So, you know, when you say that, I’m sure there are some people listening that are like, oh, so you just send him money and he’ll endorse your product. But that’s really no different at all than a major television network. You know, you if you have a show that has a lot of viewers, that means that you can charge more money. And it’s not like they’re sitting there going, well, you know, the executives at ABC don’t actually use Charmin brand toilet paper, so we’re not going to run a commercial for it. I mean, no, it’s it’s all about where can someone that wants to get eyes on their product, where can they go to get the most eyes on it And they pay for that privilege. So that makes perfect sense to me.


Ryan: [00:14:00] Yeah, that’s a great point. And I love that he said that he didn’t really care. I mean, that’s so, so in line with just who you are, Milan. And kind of you’re not afraid to go up against people and, you know, really stand for what you believe in.


Bo: [00:14:12] Although if the FTC is listing as Milan’s lawyers, he was totally just kidding.


Speaker4: [00:14:18] Exactly.


Milan: [00:14:21] I use all of the products that people sent me.


Ryan: [00:14:25] They would.


Ryan: [00:14:27] Well, it seems like every person, you know, in this day and age that’s under the age of 30, let’s say, when an Instagram or Tik Tok account just thinks that, you know, everybody wants to see their content and that they should the second they create this account, they’re entitled to become an influencer for the people that are trying to do this in earnest, that are really trying to get this started. What’s like the best piece of advice to somebody that’s trying to break into the game?


Milan: [00:14:54] I struggle with this question because I have a social media family on Bigo and on Instagram and my family is kind of creative towards influencers and content creators and stuff like that, and I just sometimes feel like everyone isn’t a content creator. And everyone is not deserving of this fame and stardom that they see from the people that they follow. Because let’s just face it, everybody’s not entertaining. I’m not that entertaining to, you know, such and such, and this person is not that entertaining to such a person. And everybody’s not a singer. Everybody’s not a dancer. And I feel like, you know, there is a level of entitlement to just every single person that creates a social media platform or social media device or whatever you want to call it, our account, who feel like. They can do what the next person is doing and do it or or do it better. And they are entitled to, like you said, to these these millions of followers and these millions of fans and so on and so forth. My best my best advice is to practice makes perfect. So if you are going to be if you want to be a social media influencer, if you want to be a comedian, if you want to be a model, if you want to be. What else are they doing? A dancer kind of practice, you know, kind of go to like dance classes and or kind of, you know, maybe perfect your craft by watching other comedians and kind of get your comedy level up or do stuff, go to like a comedy class or something like that, and then bring it to whatever app or whatever social media platform that you’re trying to build your platform on instead of just getting on there and just randomly doing stuff. Because once you get on there and your your stuff is lame, or if it’s not good, people are not going to want to they don’t even want to hear from you anymore. Because once because the attention spans of people these days is so freaking short. You know, it’s like they don’t even give you the opportunity to become better. So I would just perfect my crap outside of my app, perfect my pictures and just different things, and then come to whatever platform and try to push my content, you know? So again, I guess in layman’s terms, kind of practice before you … you know, you go to school for whatever you know, career path that you you’re trying to choose. And I’m and I’m saying like as far as your Instagram and social media is concerned, go to school first and then try to do the job. You know, just running in there and you work at Walmart and you’re running into a doctor’s office trying to do brain surgery is a little perplexing. So I don’t think everyone can do it. So I kind of learned.


Bo: [00:18:08] That I have to say, Milan, that that is fascinating and and I’ve never really thought about it that way. That’s really interesting. You’re right. You know, people think, oh, this is just somebody on the Internet. I can I could do that. But no, that is absolutely false. It takes really innate talent that not not even close to everyone has. It’s like me as a, you know, ten year old dorky white kid picking up a basketball and, you know, well, let me just go dribble in my front yard a little bit. And, you know, a few years from now, I’ll be in the NBA.


Milan: [00:18:44] Right.


Bo: [00:18:45] So it definitely. I see. I get your point. Exactly. If you don’t have that natural, whether it’s charisma, look, just drive, whatever it is that that secret ingredient that catches on with the public, you you know, it’s time to try something else.


Ryan: [00:19:02] And I mean.


Milan: [00:19:03] Go ahead. Go ahead. I’m sorry, Ryan.


Ryan: [00:19:05] I was going to say in your in your thing, I mean, it didn’t happen overnight. I mean, you’ve been on all these shows. You’ve done the reality shows, you’ve done the music videos, you’ve done the you’ve had this great rap career, you’ve done all these things and you’ve put in that time. And I think some people get hung up on the followers and just say, Oh, this person must have just turned on this app. And now they just got all this.


Milan: [00:19:29] You know. I hear this a lot. Like when it comes down to people like Kim Kardashian and the Kardashian family, where people are like, what do they do? Like, you know, how are they so famous? How are they so rich and how are they so huge? Social media influencers are like, what’s their talent? It takes talent to do what those girls do, you know, in all honesty. For them to be one of the richest, richest. But let’s let’s just scratch the the wealth part of it. Wealth aspect of it, but also one of the most famous people on the planet. The Kardashians are literally their family are literally the most famous girls on the planet. I haven’t seen a family like theirs since the Jacksons, Michael Jackson and his family. And, you know, it takes it takes a craft to be able to build a character, build a platform, build something that people want to listen to, want to watch. People want to hear. People want to be like and, you know, Kim’s not a singer, but she you know, she did have a sex tape a couple of years back. But the sex tape was basically just kind of like something that just pushed her name to the forefront and it took all of the work and the networking and all of the things that you have to do in order to get to the level that those girls are on. Because if it was so easy, everybody would do it. Everybody would be Kardashians right now.


Bo: [00:21:10] Yeah, there’s a lot of people with sex tapes out there that aren’t quite as famous or rich as the Kardashians. So, now Ryan was telling me, Milan, that you recently launched your A series on your very own streaming network MCTV streaming network, is that right?


Milan: [00:21:34] Yes, sir.


Bo: [00:21:35] Well, tell us a little bit about that. How did you start that process and what is what is tell us about this new network.


Milan: [00:21:42] So there was a space where I was just like, You know what? There’s no gay superheroes on TV. And and I had a connect with Amazon where I could create a show and get my content put on Amazon, Amazon Prime. And I was like, you know, I want to be a superhero. Like, that’s one thing that I’ve always wanted to be as an actor growing up. And I was kind of trying to find a space where, you know, we were lacking in. And I just realized there was no gay superheroes or no openly gay superheroes on Marvel or on DC characters and so, so on and so forth. And if it was, they weren’t like well known superheroes. And so I said, Let me create my own thing. So I end up creating a comic book called Ragnarok. And and so many people were just like, interested and kind of kind of went a little I had like a little virility and I was like, you know, I should create a TV show. And I went to a couple of networks and tried to pitch the show and I just noticed that, even then in 2019, 2018, that there was still this thing. And I don’t know, maybe it’s me. Maybe it was because it was me. I don’t know. You know, coming from love and hip hop. But at the time, there was no little Naz. There was no I mean, I guess we did have Jussie Smollett, but there was no other real vocal gay black men, honestly. And so people weren’t really jumping on it. And it was just kind of like. So I was like, you know what? I’m going to do my own thing. So I ended up doing it, making my own TV show based off the comic book that I created. And I ended up saying, I’m going to I need to put this on a network or on a place where people can watch it. So that’s when I initially created my TV streaming network, and my plan was to make it a TV series. And then in 2019, as we all know, COVID hit. So when COVID hit, it stopped the production of not only my show, but the entire world, you know, kind of went into went back into the stone ages I feel like because nothing in LA was moving. Nobody was shooting anything. I started noticing, you know, as I’m sitting at home with all these great ideas that was kind of slipping through my hands because, you know, no one was doing anything. I started noticing people started to move and navigate to Georgia because Georgia in 2018, 2019 was still open. You know, Tyler Perry Studios was wide open. People were still shooting TV shows and movies. In California, it was absolutely not happening, period. No one was shooting anything. And I’m at home, I’m on Bigo, I’m on social media, and I’m kind of still making money from social media. And I’m like, you know what? I got to get the hell out of here because I want to continue to make my show. I moved to Atlanta in like 2020, 2019, 2020, still kind of in the midst of the pandemic. It just kind of took time a little bit too much time where I kind of just said, you know what? I’m going to just. Not do this Ragnarok thing right now. And so I ended up getting hired to go on another television show back in LA. And I went there and I did that and had a horrible experience. And I was like, the whole time I was there, I was like, you know what? This is my time to create my own thing and get back to what I really want to do, which is produce reality TV, produce TV shows and so forth. And I came back, got back on to that when I got back to Atlanta again, and I just went full fledged pushing it and shot my own thing, shot my own shows. And now that’s the only thing that I’m concentrating on outside. I’m still doing social media, but producing and directing and utilizing my own platform and pushing my own platform.


Ryan: [00:26:08] And you’re talking about The Hot Boys of Atlanta, right?


Milan: [00:26:11] Yes. Hot Boys ATL.


Ryan: [00:26:13] So tell us about that.


Milan: [00:26:15] Oh, so Hot Boys ATL is a TV show based on a group of individuals that live in the Atlanta area, trying to make it here. A lot of the people that are here are not from here. They’re from different places like LA, Chicago, Florida, and so forth. They are all trying to be singers, some of them trying to be dancers. Some of them are trying to be like you, Ryan, and become Only Fans, superstars. And so, you know, so we kind of follow their stories and what they have going on throughout the city. And yeah, it’s it’s it’s for me, it’s kind of like a LGBTQIA love and hip hop on steroids so.


Bo: [00:27:10] Well that you got me sold. I cannot wait to watch that. And and, of course, is it safe to assume that now that you have met Ryan Schmidt, that Hot Boys SAV is not far behind?


Milan: [00:27:24] Yes, I think Savannah is next. And Ryan is going to be our lead star, of course. Absolutely.


Ryan: [00:27:34] Awesome. Awesome. Well, so I talked to you about a game. We usually play games here on Allegedly podcast and this being a legal entertainment podcast, you know, we often throw different games and challenges at each other with you. We want to come up with something that would combine your world with ours. So. So here, here’s our question to you. You know, if you could slide into the DMs of any fictional TV or movie lawyer, who would it be and why?


Milan: [00:28:07] Movie lawyer.


Bo: [00:28:09] Yeah.


Ryan: [00:28:09] Movie or TV.


Milan: [00:28:12] Okay. So I don’t know if you guys remember the movie where Keanu Reeves was a lawyer and his dad was like the devil, “Devil’s Advocate.” I would definitely slide in Keanu Reeves. I mean, he was an amazing lawyer, But not only was he an amazing lawyer, he was kind of dedicated to doing the right thing. And, you know, I thought that was super dope. Of course, he’s an amazing looking person as well, so that doesn’t hurt. So but yeah, it would be Keanu Reeves. “Devil’s Advocate.”


Bo: [00:29:00] That’s a good one. Well, man, you’ve got a lot going on. You got anything else you’re cooking up right now? I mean, other than Hot Boys Atlanta, what’s next for Milan Christopher?


Milan: [00:29:10] So I want to do Hot Girls, Either Hot Girls Atlanta or Hot Girls Chicago. You know, because I’m from Chicago. But yeah, so my next show is definitely going to be Hot Girls. And then, of course, season two for Hot Boys. And honestly. I want to pick back up on Ragnarok and start shooting more episodes of that as well, which is a scripted television show. And I also want to have another idea for not a television show, but a movie, a short that I also want to do. So I got a couple of things that I have in the back of my mind that I’m working towards getting done. So a couple more projects.


Ryan: [00:29:53] Well, we certainly can’t wait to see it. Milan, thank you so much for joining us today and being the first ever guest on Allegedly with Bo and Ryan. It was so much fun having you on.


Milan: [00:30:04] I had an absolute blast. You guys are great and I look forward to listening to your podcast. This is like episode seven of your podcast, correct?


Ryan: [00:30:14] That’s right.


Milan: [00:30:16] Perfect. So I got a question for you guys. Do you guys feel like you guys are going to be doing this podcast from now until eternity or you feel like it’s just something you’re doing just for now?


Bo: [00:30:30] Well, I got to say, I was very hesitant to get started doing it, but since we’ve started doing it, I mean, not only have we gotten a great reaction so far, but it’s been a blast. It’s so much fun.


Ryan: [00:30:41] Yeah, we’re just we’re just having we’re just two dudes having a good time talking about lawyers stuff and TVs and movies and all that stuff. So, yeah, no, no plans to stop.


Bo: [00:30:51] And it’s kind of like this Milan. We’d be having these same stupid conversations just in the office, so we might as well put a damn mic in front of us.


Speaker4: [00:30:59] Right, Right.


Milan: [00:31:02] Okay, one last question. What’s your favorite show on television right now? Both Both of you guys.


Ryan: [00:31:07] Oh, wow. So favorite show, the only live show I’m watching right now, in addition to watching old stuff, that’s kind of going on is I’m really hooked into House the Dragon or Hot D, So.


Milan: [00:31:22] Yeah my god. Dragons is literally, I am a Game of Thrones fanatic already. Yep. But. House of Dragons is like… First. First of all, we’re only on season one, so let’s just start there. And for it to be as good as it is, it’s almost like Game of Thrones on steroids. You know, in Game of Thrones, it was only three Dragons and House of Dragons, it’s f***ing 100. So it’s just so good and it’s just so all over the place. And it’s just everything is just every episode has been had. So many unexpected turns and trials and tribulations. I absolutely love it. It’s literally my favorite show. But Game of Thrones was my favorite show. The House of Dragons has literally taken over. Yeah. And this weekend, I don’t know when this show airs, but, you know, this Sunday is supposed to be the season finale, so I’m sure it’s going to be f***ing epic.


Bo: [00:32:19] Yeah, I can’t wait.


Ryan: [00:32:21] Absolutely. Yeah.


Milan: [00:32:22] Well, what about you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.


Bo: [00:32:24] Well, first of all, let me just follow up on House of the Dragon. I had a moment that kind of bothered me a little bit about that show, which is Viserys at his death literally was only supposed to be 52 years old. That motherf***er was younger than me because that dude …


Milan: [00:32:45] Look also, he had a disease. So it wasn’t. It wasn’t just. It wasn’t his age. He had like, I’m assuming he had lupus or…


Bo: [00:32:54] Leprosy or something.


Milan: [00:32:56] Yeah, like a leprosy. Yeah. He had some type of deteriorating disease going on, so he’s, you know, so you don’t have to worry about that.


Bo: [00:33:04] Yeah.


Ryan: [00:33:05] Yeah.


Bo: [00:33:06] So. Well, I’ll tell you Milan show that I have really loved it just ended a couple of weeks ago is a show called Reservation Dogs. You ever seen that?


Milan: [00:33:17] No, I’ve never even heard of it.


Bo: [00:33:19] Oh, man, it’s on FX and it’s about a group of of teenagers that live on an Indian reservation. And like, every episode is very similar to the first couple of seasons of Atlanta. You know, you just never know what’s going to happen in every episode, who they’re going to focus on. And I’ll tell you, I have not recommended that show to a single person that hasn’t come back to me and said, Oh my God, I love that show. So definitely check that one out.


Milan: [00:33:50] So I will definitely this week check out Reservation Dogs and I have FX, so I’m definitely going to check that out.


Bo: [00:33:56] So yeah. Man, thank you again so much for joining us today Milan. I mean, that was fascinating stuff. I learned so much today.


Milan: [00:34:06] Yeah. And thank you guys for joining me. Hopefully MCTV streaming network dot com will be a part of you guys favorite television shows will be found on there. Make sure you guys watch and check out Hot Boys ATL on MC TV streaming network. It’s a really, really dope reality TV show. So again, that will become one of you guys favorite reality TV shows. But yeah, so and I had a really great time and got to know a lot about you and Bo. I’m sorry, Bo and Ryan. So, yeah, I had a great time as well. Thank you guys for having me.


Bo: [00:34:48] Absolutely. Well, I’ll tell you what, man. Is there any where that you feel like people that want to learn more about you, where should where’s the best place to go?


Milan: [00:34:58] Definitely come to my Instagram page, which is Milan Christopher m-i-l-a-n c-h-r-i-s-t-o-p-h-e-r. Straight across and Milan Christopher, And you can find out everything you need in my bio, on my page, in the links and my stories, you know. So yeah, definitely check me out.


Bo: [00:35:21] All right. Well, good luck, man. And really and please come back and join us again, particularly when this show blows up. Don’t forget about Allegedly with Bo and Ryan over here.


Milan: [00:35:32] I would never forget about you guys, but yeah, thank you guys again for having me. And I will talk to you guys soon.


Bo: [00:35:40] Sounds great. Thank you so much.


Ryan: [00:35:41] Thanks, man.


Milan: [00:35:42] All righty, Ryan. Bye bye. Bye.


Bo: [00:35:46] Well, I got to say, Ryan, that was incredible. I cannot believe I knew so little about influencers. And now I feel basically like an expert. I feel like I learned all there is to know about influencers today.


Ryan: [00:36:00] You mean? Kind of like how lawyers learn exactly how to lose when they go up against the Bowen Law Group?


Bo: [00:36:06] Exactly right. Which is why, of course, we’re the most successful lawyers in the history of human jurisprudence … Allegedly.


Ryan: [00:36:16] Well, that’s our show for today. Thanks for listening to the legal mastery of the highly intelligent and easily most attractive true legal outlawyers in Savannah. And remember, the only lawyers in the free world who have never lost a single case allegedly, to continue to receive free edge of your seat legal anecdotes, mind blowing takes on hot topics, and a general master class in awesomeness, please head over to TheBowenLawGroup/Podcast and look for …


Bo: [00:36:41] Dude, if they haven’t figured it out by now, they ain’t gonna just hit the damn subscribe button already.


about the hosts

Bo Bowen

Charles “Bo” Bowen is Savannah’s preeminent corporate and entertainment attorney. Bo’s clients range from dozens of well-known movies and television shows to small local businesses to large multinational corporations. When asked if it’s true he can draft corporate resolutions and partnership agreements in his sleep, Bo cracks a sly smile and responds, “In fairness, there’s really no other way to do it.”

It’s that quick wit that has helped catapult Bo to the top of his profession. Clients love him because he’s confident, fast, and entirely entertaining. According to Bob Cesca, a national political commentator, writer, and radio host, Bob had hired lawyers all over the country but had never met one like Bo. “From the first moment I met him, it felt like we had been lifelong friends. When I reached out to Bo, I was very upset over a legal issue that had been plaguing me for months. He instantly made me laugh, but he also made me feel calm, safe, and protected,” said Bob. “And then he literally picked up his phone and resolved the entire case with one call.”

Bo takes great pride in righting wrongs, no matter the opponent. So lest you believe his ready smile and quick laugh are in any way representative of his skill, a few minutes in the courtroom will quickly disabuse you of that notion. He is a highly skilled and ruthless psychopathic assassin, metaphorically speaking. His fearlessness and success in the courtroom against all foes, no matter how powerful or seemingly invincible, has inspired fierce loyalty from his clients and earned him nicknames such as “giant killer” and “dragon slayer.”

Bo came to the conclusion early in his career that being a lawyer is not much fun, so he started The Bowen Law Group with the modestly-stated ambition of completely changing the way law is practiced. By all accounts, he has succeeded.

When asked how he would describe Bo, Bob Cesca thought for a moment. “Bo combines the swagger and charm of George Clooney with the quick wit of Mark Twain and the legal ability of Perry Mason,” Bob finally responded. “I’ll put it this way: Bo is the lawyer that God would have invented if He had thought that at all a good idea.”

Ryan Schmidt

Originally hailing from New Hampshire, Georgia transplant Ryan Schmidt is an Attorney at The Bowen Law Group. A lawyer passionate about protecting the rights of creatives and business owners, Ryan’s law practice focuses on entertainment and music law, business formation, contract disputes, non-compete litigation, and creditor’s rights. 

Ryan, who toured extensively as a singer/songwriter prior to law school has been featured on the NBC’s “The Voice” and Apple iTunes’ “New Music Page” and was named “Critics’ Choice” at the Starbucks Music Makers Competition. As a professional musician, he experienced firsthand the cutthroat nature of the business and the restrictive contracts creatives are too often asked to sign. Answering the call to be a fighter for his fellow artists,  content creators, and influencers, Ryan knew he needed to pursue a career in law. And so, Ryan attended Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, where he graduated at the top of his class, summa cum laude, after serving as Executive Officer for both Belmont’s Law Review and Federalist Society.

Before moving to Savannah, Ryan clerked for a Nashville-based law firm representing clients in the music industry, fine arts, and digital media. Since joining The Bowen Law Group in 2018, he has represented countless clients in various business and entertainment matters.

For Ryan, being an advocate is not only his duty but also his privilege. As a lawyer, he stands in between what is and what should be. Each day is another opportunity to narrow that gap.